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  What happens after the End from teachings of Main stream Churches and teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Alex Williams in

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  matthew 24:14 new international version (niv).

  14 and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.. only one teaching will lead to salvation and the other one will lead to death forever.

  both teachings will be from verses in nwt and mainstream translation of christendom to compare both,before starting the reason both translations is the translators in many cases slanted the text to support the believe of that time,for example :.

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  Tenacious ,you cant just come to him Jesus made that clear

  
  

  John 6:44 New International Version
  “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him

  
  

  One has to be qualified to be chosen By God himself ,he is the creator and has the say as to who comes to Jesus

  
  

  Doug Hi I use all Scriptures because many say you witnesses have your own bible,so I can use anyone to show what was said
  
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  What happens after the End from teachings of Main stream Churches and teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Alex Williams in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  matthew 24:14 new international version (niv).

  14 and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.. only one teaching will lead to salvation and the other one will lead to death forever.

  both teachings will be from verses in nwt and mainstream translation of christendom to compare both,before starting the reason both translations is the translators in many cases slanted the text to support the believe of that time,for example :.

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  Matthew 24:14 New International Version (NIV)

  14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

  Only one teaching will lead to salvation and the other one will lead to death forever

  Both teachings will be from verses in NWT and mainstream translation of Christendom to compare both,before starting the reason both translations is the translators in many cases slanted the text to support the believe of that time,for example :

  
  

  1 Tim 3-16 KJV
  And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

  It was slanted to promote the Trinity saying God came to earth instead of the Son

  Several other translation recognized this was in error of translation and corrected the text

  ESV
  Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness:

  sHe5 was manifested in the flesh,the[ 5 ]there says Greek Who; some manuscripts God;

  
  

  
  New International Version

  Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh,

  
  New Living Translation
  Without question, this is the great mystery of our faith: Christ was revealed in a human body

  So the text was Christ came to earth not God,the word God was not in the original Greek text

  KJV is widely used in Christendom

  Another error in translation

  John 8-7 KJV
  

  7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone John 8-7
  

  This verse was added by the scribe ,not originally in the Greek text,Jesus never said these words

  These are many more errors or misleading verses,one more passage to get the wrong conclusion;

  
  King James 2000 Bible
  Jesus said unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father:

  He couldnt have told Mary this after his resurrection because later that day he told Thomas to touch me stick your hands in me,several others corrected the text;

  
  Holman Christian Standard Bible
  "Don't cling to Me,

  NWT Jehovah's Witness
  "Don't cling to Me

  
  Christian Standard Bible
  "Don't cling to me,

  
  New American Standard Bible
  Jesus said to her, "Stop clinging to Me

  So for these reasons I will refer to several translations to get the complete understanding as to what was said and how it was said,there are many many more verses that either mislead or slant the text to the translators personal belief

  Ill google what is the Rapture?
  

  http://www.creation-science-prophecy.com/jesus.htm

  https://billygraham.org/answer/what-is-the-rapture/
  

  https://activechristianity.org/what-does-the-bible-say-about-the-rapture

  
  For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.” 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18.

  Thats the belief of the Churches of Christendom This is suppose to happen when the end comes those saved will be wisked away to Heaven to forever be with Jesus.

  JWs teaching

  New World begins here on eart for 1,000 years

  The Churches have a problem with this verse

  Rev 20-2
  New International Version
  He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years.

  This is what Witnesses believe that the earth will be a paradise and Satan will be released to mislead earth inhabitants all over again

  
  Berean Literal Bible

  Rev 20 3
  
  And he cast him into the Abyss, and shut and sealed it over him, so that he should not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed. After these things it is necessary for him to be released for a little time.
  

  The problem is since all the saved were taken to heaven a 1000 earlier where these people come from who Satan misleads after being released,certainly not those who are in heave would come back to the earth after their reward to be tempted by the Devil and a chance to be destroyed,makes no sense

  JW teaching makes more sense that during the 1,000 many ones will be born and never was tempted loyalty and those ones who survived the end will grow to perfection and can now say they are under Adamic sin he brought on all mankind ,thats why Satan was not destroyed 1,000 earlier,man always told God why do I have to suffer for what one man did if I was there I may have been obedient ,so they will get that chance standing on their own merit
  

  Ive asked preachers that question as to where the people come form to be tempted by the Devil and some say those saved a 1,000 earlier will come back to the earth with Christ who will set up his Kingdom here on earth,so what was the purpose of the Devil not being destroyed 1,000 earlier and will those who were in heaven now back on earth be the ones tempted,they dont know but just say Revelation is a book of symbols

  There you have it both beliefs ,which one harmonizes with the scriptures

  The Churches of Christemdom
  

  
  

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  Can this be true: GB to court - NBC ??

  by Festus in

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  is this a bad joke or "fake news"?.

  nbc new york is claiming "attorneys are expected on monday to announce the filing of lawsuits in king's county supreme court against eight members of the governing body of the jehovah's witnesses for alleged child sexual abuse claims.".

  eventhough i would enjoy to see this happen i am very suspiciouse concerning nbcs reliability with this case.. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/happening-today-nj-water-cosby-appeal-epstein-probe-536740491.html.

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  As a such loyal and practising Jehovah Witness that you sound that you are, just the access to this site is counted as apostasy.

  No Im a voice in the wilderness sounding truth before the awe inspiring day of Jehovah,as we go from door to door many just dont open to us and have been for one reason or another have been mislead by what others have said.

  Apostasy

  the abandonment or renunciation of a religious or political belief,

  TO THE CONTARY I dont agree with the teachings here Ive stated that ,and haven't abandoned my beliefs,there may be some here who could listen to my writings,we look for sheep not to knock the horns off goats
  
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  Questions About the Watchtower's View on Blood Transfusions.

  by Pallbearer in

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  i admit to not being very well informed about the watchtower's view on blood transfusions.

  i have a couple of questions that i hope someone here is able to answer.. i understand that the watchtower now considers it to be okay to receive blood fractions.. my first question is: are all fractions considered to be permissible?

  and if not, specifically which fractions are not permissible?.

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  It was water not blood that David refused,wrong to him it was blood thats why he didnt drink it
  
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  Evolution - A Conversation with Alex Williams

  by cofty in

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  alex - thank you for your offer to have a conversation about evolution.. i accept the scientific evidence that all life - including humans - evolved from a common ancestor through unguided evolution over millions of years.

  this isn't even a controversial position in the scientific community.. the evidence rests on the data from many interconnected fields including paleontology, comparative anatomy, geology and especially genetics.

  it is no exaggeration to say that the evidence for your own non-human ancestry is contained in every cell in your body.. it is my experience that jws are generally quite ignorant (not in a pejorative sense) of the scientific case.

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  Well my point from the beginning was probability,in order to have evolve takes in the process of abiogenesis ,youre not the only one reading this.we can get into species aspect but I want to show how unlikely evolution was or is .I continue,it is assumed that amino acids somehow reached the oceans and were protected from the destructive ultraviolet radiation in the atmosphere, what then? Hitching explained: “Beneath the surface of the water there would not be enough energy to activate further chemical reactions; water in any case inhibits the growth of more complex molecules.We are talking about the origin of life so this is relevant

  Once amino acids are in the water, they must get out of it if they are to form larger molecules and evolve toward becoming proteins useful for the formation of life. But once they get out of the water, they are in the destructive ultraviolet light again! “In other words,” Hitching says, “the theoretical chances of getting through even this first and relatively easy stage [getting amino acids] in the evolution of life are forbidding.
  
  

  Here is a problem you need to answer for evolution :

  There are over 100 amino acids, but only 20 are needed for life’s proteins

  They come in two shapes: Some of the molecules are “right-handed” and others are “left-handed.” Should they be formed at random, as in a theoretical organic soup, it is most likely that half would be right-handed and half left-handed.

  There is no known reason why either shape should be preferred in living things. Yet, of the 20 amino acids used in producing life’s proteins, all are left-handed.
  How can this be if all this soup evolved with out a designer behind it.

  How is it that, at random, only the specifically required kinds would be united in the soup?

  
  John Desmond Bernal FRS was an Irish scientist who pioneered the use of X-ray crystallography in molecular biology. physicist known for his studies of the atomic structure of solid compounds, during which he made major contributions.
  
  “It must be admitted that the explanation . . . still remains one of the most difficult parts of the structural aspects of life to explain.” He concluded: “We may never be able to explain it.”

  But to me to believe something it has to be explained such as evolution process for life to begin
  

  
  What chance is there that the correct amino acids would come together to form a protein molecule? It could be likened to having a big, thoroughly mixed pile containing equal numbers of red beans and white beans. There are also over 100 different varieties of beans. Now, if you plunged a scoop into this pile, what do you think you would get? To get the beans that represent the basic components of a protein, you would have to scoop up only red ones—no white ones at all! Also, your scoop must contain only 20 varieties of the red beans, and each one must be in a specific, preassigned place in the scoop. In the world of protein, a single mistake in any one of these requirements would cause the protein that is produced to fail to function properly. Would any amount of stirring and scooping in our hypothetical bean pile have given the right combination? NO
  

  Then how would it have been possible in the hypothetical organic soup?
  The proteins needed for life have very complex molecules. What is the chance of even a simple protein molecule forming at random in an organic soup?

  Evolutionists acknowledge it to be only one in 10113 (1 followed by 113 zeros). But any event that has one chance in just 1050 is dismissed by mathematicians as never happening. An idea of the odds, or probability, involved is seen in the fact that the number 10113 is larger than the estimated total number of all the atoms in the universe!

  
  

  More difficult to obtain than these are nucleotides, the structural units of DNA, which bears the genetic code. Five histones are involved in DNA (histones are thought to be involved in governing the activity of genes). The chance of forming even the simplest of these histones is said to be one in 20100—another huge number “larger than the total of all the atoms in all the stars and galaxies visible in the largest astronomical telescopes.”

  
  

  Evolutionary theory attempts to eliminate the need for the impossible to be accomplished “in one blow” by espousing a step-by-step process by which natural selection could do its work gradually. However, without the genetic code to begin reproduction, there can be no material for natural selection to select.
  physicist H. S. Lipson, realizing the odds against a spontaneous origin for life, said: “The only acceptable explanation is creation. I know that this is anathema to physicists, as indeed it is to me, but we must not reject a theory that we do not like if the experimental evidence supports it.” He further observed that after Darwin’s book, The Origin of Species, “evolution became in a sense a scientific religion; almost all scientists have accepted it and many are prepared to ‘bend’ their observations to fit in with it.”
  
  
  
  When confronted with the astronomical odds against a living cell forming by chance, some evolutionists feel forced to back away. For example, the authors of Evolution From Space (Hoyle and Wickramasinghe) give up, saying: “These issues are too complex to set numbers to.” They add: “There is no way . . . in which we can simply get by with a bigger and better organic soup, as we ourselves hoped might be possible a year or two ago. The numbers we calculated above are essentially just as unfaceable for a universal soup as for a terrestrial one.
  
  
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  Evolution - A Conversation with Alex Williams

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  alex - thank you for your offer to have a conversation about evolution.. i accept the scientific evidence that all life - including humans - evolved from a common ancestor through unguided evolution over millions of years.

  this isn't even a controversial position in the scientific community.. the evidence rests on the data from many interconnected fields including paleontology, comparative anatomy, geology and especially genetics.

  it is no exaggeration to say that the evidence for your own non-human ancestry is contained in every cell in your body.. it is my experience that jws are generally quite ignorant (not in a pejorative sense) of the scientific case.

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  Which should I believe whats taught here in school or the Bible?

  Consider the RNA molecule,Robert Shapiro, professor emeritus of chemistry at New York University says no nucleotides of any kind have been reported as products of spark-discharge experiments or in studies of meteorites.”3 He further states that the probability of a self-replicating RNA molecule randomly assembling from a pool of chemical building blocks “is so vanishingly small that its happening even once anywhere in the visible universe would count as a piece of exceptional good luck.

  What about protein molecules? They can be made from as few as 50 or as many as several thousand amino acids bound together in a highly specific order. The average functional protein in a “simple” cell contains 200 amino acids. Even in those cells, there are thousands of different types of proteins. The probability that just one protein containing only 100 amino acids could ever randomly form on earth has been calculated to be about one chance in a million billion.

  A billion seconds is 31 years.A million hours ago was in 1885. so one chance in a million billion is not to be believed
  
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  Do you believe in a Rapture that the Churches teach instead of living on earth forever

  by Alex Williams in

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  its taken from 1 thessalonians 4:13-17. now jesus compared the end to the days of noah .

  but as the days of noah were, so shall also the coming of the son of man be.

  why did he compare the two and does it give us a clue to which teaching is the right one?.

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  Paul stated: “This I say, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s kingdom,
  Upon dying in faithfulness during Christ’s presence, each one of the remnant of spiritual Israel instantaneously receives his heavenly reward. “In the twinkling of an eye,” he is resurrected as a spirit creature and “caught away” to meet Jesus and to serve as a coruler in the Kingdom
  

  This has nothing to do with a rapture at the end of the world

  Paul added: “Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with the Lord.” (Verse 17) “The living” would be those alive during Christ’s presence. They would be “caught away” to meet the Lord Jesus. As in the case of faithful early Christians, death as a human is necessary for them to be united with Christ in heaven.
  Thessalonians speaks of the resurrection hope not a rapture which word is not in the scriptures

  1 Thessalonians 4:17 as the basis for their belief. Let us examine this scripture in its context. Paul wrote:
  “Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant concerning those who are sleeping in death; that you may not sorrow just as the rest also do who have no hope. For if our faith is that Jesus died and rose again, so, too, those who have fallen asleep in death through Jesus God will bring with him.
  
  The congregation in Thessalonica was relatively new when Paul addressed his first letter to Christians there in about 50 C.E. Members of the congregation were distressed that some of their number were “sleeping in death.” However, what Paul wrote comforted the Thessalonians with the resurrection hope.
  
  
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  How did Adam and Eve survive when kicked out of the Garden of Eden?

  by I believe in overlapping in

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  it’s funny how a simple question like this is something that the dubs never even consider.

  my dad asked this question to a couple of witnesses and they wondered for a minute and said; .

  “i never thought about it, i’ll have to ask the elders”.

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  One thing I know about it deals with probability ,one bible Scholar put it this was its like placing the letters of the alphabet in a hat and on the first and only chance picking every letter from A to Z in secession ,thats the odds of evolution
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  How did Adam and Eve survive when kicked out of the Garden of Eden?

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  it’s funny how a simple question like this is something that the dubs never even consider.

  my dad asked this question to a couple of witnesses and they wondered for a minute and said; .

  “i never thought about it, i’ll have to ask the elders”.

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  How familiar are you with the scientific evidence for evolution?

  Would you be open-minded enough to discuss it?

  Im not adapted at evolution belief, Im one of JWs minister but have access to any topic there is to refute that belief,so yes we can discuss it
  
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  Questions About the Watchtower's View on Blood Transfusions.

  by Pallbearer in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i admit to not being very well informed about the watchtower's view on blood transfusions.

  i have a couple of questions that i hope someone here is able to answer.. i understand that the watchtower now considers it to be okay to receive blood fractions.. my first question is: are all fractions considered to be permissible?

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  David who was thirsty exclaimed he longed for water after being pinned down,his warriors heard that and fought to get water to David,but what did he do when they offered it to him?
  
  New Living Translation
  David remarked longingly to his men, “Oh, how I would love some of that good water from the well by the gate in Bethlehem.”
  

  New International Version
  So the three mighty warriors broke through the Philistine lines, drew water from the well near the gate of Bethlehem and carried it back to David. But he refused to drink it; instead, he poured it out before the LORD.

  Why did he do this?

  
  New American Standard Bible
  and he said, "Be it far from me, O LORD, that I should do this. Shall I drink the blood of the men who went in jeopardy of their lives?" Therefore he would not drink it. These things the three mighty men did.
  

  So sometimes distinction, physically, ethically and morally are relevant
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